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	<description>a look at how America squanders nearly half of its food</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.wastedfood.com/2009/03/16/recyclemania-reduction-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-101607</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry, you make some great points. So true about the gargantuan trash cans and tiny recycling bins.

&quot;Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good enough.&quot; I like this expression, but without the &#039;enough.&#039; That connotes laziness to me. 

I don&#039;t think we should let organizations rest on their laurels. There&#039;s too much at stake and plenty of room for improvement. So I&#039;ll compliment groups for each positive step, but encourage/poke/prod them to waste less food. Someone has to push the envelope a bit...

Like I said, Recyclemania is generally a positive thing. I just wish they&#039;d improve that one category. And maybe with your help in figuring out how to measure what&#039;s not used, they will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry, you make some great points. So true about the gargantuan trash cans and tiny recycling bins.</p>
<p>&#8220;Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good enough.&#8221; I like this expression, but without the &#8216;enough.&#8217; That connotes laziness to me. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we should let organizations rest on their laurels. There&#8217;s too much at stake and plenty of room for improvement. So I&#8217;ll compliment groups for each positive step, but encourage/poke/prod them to waste less food. Someone has to push the envelope a bit&#8230;</p>
<p>Like I said, Recyclemania is generally a positive thing. I just wish they&#8217;d improve that one category. And maybe with your help in figuring out how to measure what&#8217;s not used, they will.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.wastedfood.com/2009/03/16/recyclemania-reduction-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-101563</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t let the perfect be the enemy of the good enough.

Yes, in an ideal world we&#039;d all use less and there&#039;s be little recycling.  We&#039;re not there yet.  Let organizations get a benefit by increasing recycling &amp; composting.  Some years down the road, when recycling is as common as trash cans, then push for the next step.  But if all one does is critize an effort for not being perfect, then who&#039;s going to make the effort at all?

I *am* interested in a way to measure what isn&#039;t used.  As you say, it&#039;s hard to measure what isn&#039;t there and measuring is natural in a competition.  Measuring recycling piles is easy so what we need is an equally easy to measure &quot;not used&quot; piles.  Ideas, class?

I don&#039;t have a problem with a person or an organization getting a specific, individual benefit - such a profit - from doing a right thing.  Profit motivates people and companies, let&#039;s harness it to achieve our goals rather than deride someone for benefiting from doing a right thing.

My personal rant: I wish my municipal recycling can were as large as my municipal garbage can!  Even better, that the two switched sizes.  We recycle far more than we throw out.  (Now I wonder, is someone going to dump on me for having so much to recycle?)

Harry, who reduces, reuses, and recycles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t let the perfect be the enemy of the good enough.</p>
<p>Yes, in an ideal world we&#8217;d all use less and there&#8217;s be little recycling.  We&#8217;re not there yet.  Let organizations get a benefit by increasing recycling &amp; composting.  Some years down the road, when recycling is as common as trash cans, then push for the next step.  But if all one does is critize an effort for not being perfect, then who&#8217;s going to make the effort at all?</p>
<p>I *am* interested in a way to measure what isn&#8217;t used.  As you say, it&#8217;s hard to measure what isn&#8217;t there and measuring is natural in a competition.  Measuring recycling piles is easy so what we need is an equally easy to measure &#8220;not used&#8221; piles.  Ideas, class?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with a person or an organization getting a specific, individual benefit &#8211; such a profit &#8211; from doing a right thing.  Profit motivates people and companies, let&#8217;s harness it to achieve our goals rather than deride someone for benefiting from doing a right thing.</p>
<p>My personal rant: I wish my municipal recycling can were as large as my municipal garbage can!  Even better, that the two switched sizes.  We recycle far more than we throw out.  (Now I wonder, is someone going to dump on me for having so much to recycle?)</p>
<p>Harry, who reduces, reuses, and recycles.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People changing their behavior?!? 

Solid points, Dan.

To be fair I do think schools are reducing more through traylessness...Reusing, maybe a little through those coffee mugs and water bottles. But we have a long way to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People changing their behavior?!? </p>
<p>Solid points, Dan.</p>
<p>To be fair I do think schools are reducing more through traylessness&#8230;Reusing, maybe a little through those coffee mugs and water bottles. But we have a long way to go!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Livingston (CHOW)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Livingston (CHOW)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,
Some might call you a cynic, but I sure wouldn&#039;t.  I tend to be far more cynical about higher education.  My sense is that most colleges and universities--while they have various personnel and students with differing goals and interests--as institutions, tend to focus on the image that they project.  Afterall, these things are businesses (and not, I would argue, as &quot;progressive&quot; as they would have us believe).  At the end of the day, I feel as though it&#039;s the students putting pressure on their administration to make changes more than it&#039;s the other way around.  So long as there&#039;s student support for a cause, and the administration can see a way to weave it into their admissions materials, then it&#039;s going to be theirs&#039; with gusto.  

As far as recycling is concerned, I&#039;ve noticed that many people can only imagine it as a one-&#039;R&#039; operation; the act of reducing and reusing materials seems less like &#039;recycling&#039; to many people than the relocation of waste into a green bin of some sort.  Afterall, melting thousands of plastic water bottles back into more plastic water bottles has the effect of giving you the warm-fuzzies, without threatening your current lifestyle.  Once you start to talk about not drinking bottled water at all, or eating less food, then you start to challenge people&#039;s &#039;do what I feel like&#039; attitude, which is messy, and not likely to make it into the admissions packets (notwithstanding the threat implied by curbing consumption to those companies holding student services contracts).
Peace and Love,
Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,<br />
Some might call you a cynic, but I sure wouldn&#8217;t.  I tend to be far more cynical about higher education.  My sense is that most colleges and universities&#8211;while they have various personnel and students with differing goals and interests&#8211;as institutions, tend to focus on the image that they project.  Afterall, these things are businesses (and not, I would argue, as &#8220;progressive&#8221; as they would have us believe).  At the end of the day, I feel as though it&#8217;s the students putting pressure on their administration to make changes more than it&#8217;s the other way around.  So long as there&#8217;s student support for a cause, and the administration can see a way to weave it into their admissions materials, then it&#8217;s going to be theirs&#8217; with gusto.  </p>
<p>As far as recycling is concerned, I&#8217;ve noticed that many people can only imagine it as a one-&#8217;R&#8217; operation; the act of reducing and reusing materials seems less like &#8216;recycling&#8217; to many people than the relocation of waste into a green bin of some sort.  Afterall, melting thousands of plastic water bottles back into more plastic water bottles has the effect of giving you the warm-fuzzies, without threatening your current lifestyle.  Once you start to talk about not drinking bottled water at all, or eating less food, then you start to challenge people&#8217;s &#8216;do what I feel like&#8217; attitude, which is messy, and not likely to make it into the admissions packets (notwithstanding the threat implied by curbing consumption to those companies holding student services contracts).<br />
Peace and Love,<br />
Dan</p>
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